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Press Controls and Sensors Series Part 4: Die-Protection Troubleshooting: Three Cases Explored

February 9, 2025
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Not every die-protection strategy works the first time, and careful planning and bench testing sometimes aren’t enough to guarantee a trouble-free operation. Real-world failures usually are caught rather than taught.

Implementing a die-protection program is a lifelong learning journey. Not every strategy works the first time, and careful planning and bench testing sometimes aren’t enough to guarantee a trouble-free operation. This article outlines three cases in which an application looked good on paper and during testing, but fell short during production, prompting a troubleshooting hunt.

1. Stroke Continues After Ejection-Fault Signal

timing diagramThe trouble. The press makes an extra stroke after the part-ejection sensor signals a fault.

You installed a sensor to top-stop the press when a part fails to eject. You tested it to verify proper function and it ran normally for months. Suddenly, the die-protection system allowed the press to make an additional stroke after a part-ejection failure was detected. How is this possible?

This problem is caused by the choice of stop type—in this case, a top stop—and brake wear (Fig. 1). For a press to top-stop, two separate control actions are required, and in the correct order. First, you must arm the top-stop circuit, which happens when the die-protection controller opens its top-stop relay. The press doesn’t stop immediately; it waits for the next top-stop limit-switch actuation, which is the second action. The top-stop limit switch is a press-control timing signal that actuates late in the upstroke, shortly before top dead center (TDC). It initiates the stop and is timed so that when the ram finally stops, it will be at or near TDC (0 deg. of the crankshaft).

The trouble starts when the brakes wear. Worn brakes can cause the ram to overrun TDC, generating a press control error. 

The resolution. The proper course of action is to repair the brakes to correct the stopping time. The expedient workaround is to adjust the top-stop limit-switch timing to counter the brake wear, turning it on earlier so that the ram stops on top.

If you adjust the top-stop limit-switch signal so that it turns on earlier than the end of the part-ejection sensor’s timing (ready) window, the timing signals required for a top stop end up out of order. As a result, the die-protection system arms the top-stop circuit, and the press control stops the press the next time it detects the top-stop limit switch, which will be on the next stroke.

Use an emergency or immediate stop for all die-threatening events, even if the event occurs on the upstroke.

2. Not Enough Time on Short Feed to Stop

end of feed cycleThe trouble. The job runs so fast on a short feed that not enough time is available to stop the press to prevent die damage.

In this case, a progressive die runs at 150 strokes/min. The feeder finishes at TDC; the die closes at 140 deg., and the press stopping time is 180 msec. A quick calculation of the critical angle (the last point in crankshaft rotation to signal an emergency stop without die damage) puts it at 338 deg., or 22 deg. before the feed can finish.

The resolution. Install a partial-feed detection sensor.

If you have a short feed on a high-speed operation, you don’t necessarily have to accept that you will crash the die on every short feed. If fact, an easy way to detect some short feeds in this type of operation is to check the strip progression during the feed while enough time exists to stop the press.

If a die runs at such a high speed that there is insufficient time to stop the press by the time the feed completes, install two proximity sensors to detect feed progression.

The sensor in the background detects full feed progression and is set to top-stop the press in the event of an error. The sensor in the foreground will detect the strip about halfway through the feed progression. When the die runs normally, the partial-feed sensor detects the strip during the progression before the critical angle. This sensor is set to emergency- stop the press.

This arrangement effectively prevents die damage due to misfeeds because short-feeds are much more common than over-feeds, and most causes of short-feeds (such as roll slippage, improper setup and partially pulled slugs) occur at the beginning of the feed cycle.

3. Sensor Locks “On,” Causing Nuisance Stops

diffuse reflective photosensorThe trouble. You’re ejecting a part down a chute and using an infrared diffuse-reflective photosensor to detect the part. You can get it running on the bench, but when you try to run it in the press, the part-ejection sensor occasionally locks “on” without reason, causing a nuisance stop.

The resolution. Change the sensor type.

Detecting a part as it moves near a background is a difficult sensing application. This often occurs if you use a photosensor to detect a part exiting down a chute or passing on a conveyor. Ideally you would detect the object from the side, but space constraints may force you to sense the object from above. This can be challenging. Proper sensor selection is the difference between success and failure.

As the name implies, a diffuse-reflective photosensor operates on the principle of reflectivity. The emitter sends out a cone-shaped field of light perpendicular to the face of the sensor; the sensor actuates when the receiver detects some of the emitted light reflected back. It is one of the more popular sensors for detecting air-ejected parts. For this reason, many stampers attempt to use it to detect objects. Unfortunately, it is ill-suited when parts move near a background.  

A diffuse-reflective photosensor will actuate when the receiver ‘sees’ only a small amount of the emitted light reflected back to it. This enables this sensor to detect small, fast-moving, oddly shaped targets, making it suitable for detecting air-ejected parts. Unfortunately, this attribute also causes the sensor to have difficulty detecting an object near a background because it also picks up the background itself.

With painstaking adjustment, it may be possible to succeed with such an application on the bench, but when installed on a machine, the results usually are disappointing. Any small change in the mounting angle, distance or reflectivity of the background (such as when it becomes coated with oil) can cause the sensor to lock onto the background periodically, causing sensor failures and missed actuations.

An optical-convergent sensor (sometimes called a distance-settable reflective sensor) is a better choice. Like the diffuse-reflective photosensor, an optical-convergent sensor is a reflective photosensor, but instead of transmitting light at 90 deg. to the face of the sensor, the emitter angles toward the center axis of the sensor. The receiver is angled toward the same spot but from the opposite direction, so that the two beams converge at a spot in front of the sensor. This sets up a V-shaped sensing beam that allows the sensor to detect objects in the area where the emitter beam and receiver viewing area intersect.

This beam arrangement also enables the sensor to ignore anything outside of the area where the beams cross, because when the emitter beam reflects an object outside of the convergent area, the reflected light will miss the receiver.

Install the sensor so that the background is beyond the convergent area, while the part to be detected will pass through the point where the emitter beam and receiver viewing area intersect.

These three applications, with their unforeseen problems, represent the types of real-world failures that usually are caught rather than taught. When implementing a die-protection program, your learning curve never ends. MF

 Press Controls and Sensors Series, Part 1: Five Factors in Selecting a Resolver-Based Die-Protection Controller 

Press Controls and Sensors Series, Part 2: Pairing Sensor Types with the Problems They Address

Press Controls and Sensors Series, Part 3: Best Practices for Die Protection

Industry-Related Terms: Case, Center, Die, Ram, Run, Stroke
View Glossary of Metalforming Terms

 

See also: Wintriss Controls Group LLC

Technologies: Sensing/Electronics/IOT

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